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on the day there was a nice troop of girl scouts out front making Molotov cocktails for the attackers...
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It's never OK to escalate to invasion. Doesn't matter. Wrong every time.

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forgetting the coup government spent 8 years killing nearly 15thousand UKRAINIANS in the donbass

invading the donbass was good
those people deserved rescue long ago

crimea was their and always will be

as to the overreach its objective was to kill the snake
its head and its masses

its going to be a long time before we see if their strategy was correct or not


theyve actually gone in light and reserved
mabe that was the mistake


but russia has said from the first it stops when they get three things

donbass indipendant
crimera theirs in writing
no nato membership


nato itself has always stated ukraine has no chance
and theres always been no chance of taking crimea away from the russians

which leave donbass and they agreed long ago in the minsk paper


guess who was backing the ukrainian government flaunting its implimentation?


reasonable peace has been available since the get go
unfortunately WE dont want it...
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ripper5 wrote:
Mon May 02, 2022 8:01 pm
It's never OK to escalate to invasion. Doesn't matter. Wrong every time.
I'm not sure you understand how all this works...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_ ... operations
US whole existence, rise to power, and status as dominant world power, is based on invasions.
US goes wherever the fuk it wants, controls whoever the fuk it wants, for whatever fukking reason it makes up.

It would be nice if things didn't work this way......but they do.

Sure throws "lead by example" right out the window.

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??? When did I say it was OK for the US to do worse? ....I didn't.
How all this works....hmmm....I served 18 months in W. Germany...I used my heavy dump Trump to lay heavy stone pathways for our tract vehicles along the Chech boarder... but I don't know...mkay.... :crazy:

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Supposedly, our life expectancy in the event of a full on USSR invasion, was 15 minutes. That was bullshit. Even moreso now...Russia still using the T72? Lol really? This whole thing is a sick joke

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Post by smokebreaks »

When it comes to the US it’s do as we say, not as we do.

Fuck that whole leading by example shit, it’s more of a here, hold my beer and watch this audacious shit.

I mean what’s more audacious than the guy who invented dynamite getting the naming rights to the peace prize?

Maybe his brothers being the biggest oil company in the fucking world?

https://www.branobelhistory.com/themes/ ... -brothers/

This shits all a game and we’re merely fucking pawns.

https://www.branobelhistory.com/the-nob ... -be-saved/

Anyone ever think why the fuck do we do shit for nobility?

Do what you can for you and yours and fuck being a part of the game. Don’t be afraid to flip the tables over.
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Best thing America could have done was to convince Ukrain to surrender immediately if the goal was ever to save lives. They would not have lost their national identity and in a decade Putin would be gone or dead and they would gain their independence again with negotiations. But nope, some assholes think they are fighting for freedom. If Russians aren't free then why have I met so many? They got passports too.

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smokebreaks wrote:
Thu May 05, 2022 1:21 am
I mean what’s more audacious than the guy who invented dynamite getting the naming rights to the peace prize?
Once saw a history channel entermockery of his life and they actually said, "TNT was made just in time for the bloodiest war ever." Unnnn, you think?

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