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i am going to try and make 2 mushroom patches.

planting yard in fescue grass. also planted a large
pot with seed. i plan to hit pot with liberty caps.
then put plugs from it around yard. the spores
are hard to find. so this fall might go find my own.

bought 2 bales of alder chips. left them in the bag.
for 2 weeks or so been dumping 5 gal of water a day
into the bags. today i figured i would mound it up.
holy fuck they were heavy. but got them moved and
mounded where i wanted them. a friend is going to
send me some cyanescens to infect the pile of chips.
i get them going will be mushrooms every fall/spring.
wish me luck. mushroom wood pile

Lrus007 wrote:i am going to try and make 2 mushroom patches.

planting yard in fescue grass. also planted a large
pot with seed. i plan to hit pot with liberty caps.
then put plugs from it around yard. the spores
are hard to find. so this fall might go find my own.

bought 2 bales of alder chips. left them in the bag.
for 2 weeks or so been dumping 5 gal of water a day
into the bags. today i figured i would mound it up.
holy fuck they were heavy. but got them moved and
mounded where i wanted them. a friend is going to
send me some cyanescens to infect the pile of chips.
i get them going will be mushrooms every fall/spring.
wish me luck.

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mushroom wood pile

This will be a fun one Lrus thank 4 sharing.

Question 4 u why do u have to water the bags of alder chips?

Lrus, you're probably already aware, but in case you're not...or for anyone else reading along...

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...the real life mushroom man.
A good resource of info.

i wet the chips so they would start to decompose.

Good deal ! Makes sense if I had thought about it...

Good luck

your going to have a hell of alot of them!

ya for years ben. then after are going add another bale of chips yearly.

Large quantities of psilocybin mushrooms can be dehydrated, vacuum sealed, and stored in a cool, dark place for at least a couple of years with no significant loss of potency. Just in case that becomes necessary. I've heard that people did that with so-called Liberty Cap psilocybes (Psilocybe semilanceata) commonly found in the Gulf Islands in BC, Canada and sold them in quantity in Ontario and Québec for many years very profitably. That's just a rumor though.

well here is my pot of fescue grass.
i had put some steer compost into the pot.
is growing well and thick. noticed today that
there is some kind of white round mushroom
growing in the pot. will keep a eye on it. when it
gets bigger will try to figure out what kind it is.

Lrus007 wrote:well here is my pot of fescue grass.
i had put some steer compost into the pot.
is growing well and thick. noticed today that
there is some kind of white round mushroom
growing in the pot. will keep a eye on it. when it
gets bigger will try to figure out what kind it is.

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That's some green grass my bro !

Happy weekend 2 u Lrus

Best of luck!

the 2 agar plates are looking pretty covered.
so soon will make my own bags to infect.
1 bag will be alder chips soaked.
2nd bag will be boiled popcorn so it does not sprout.
maybe 3rd bag of cardboard wetted down.
it should take on all 3. then when bags are
infected. will add all over my chip pile.

an easy way of starting the cyanences is cardboard, yeah this strain is that hardy, doesnt care about other funghi, and cardboard is like "soft wood"

on the other hand, i havent seen many semilicantea grows, only wild cow shit specimens

im watching your daily dose of 4-HO-DMT

yeah

been debating today.
think i will put all my eggs in one basket .
i will mix boiled un popped popcorn, alder chips
cardboard, egg carton together and do in a 2 1/2
gal ziplock bag. after mixed might toss into pressure
cooker to kill any nasties. or in a large pan at 350º
oven for a hour or so. then will drain add to bag.
when cool cut up some agar pieces and spread around
the bag then wait. i am soaking alder chips now.
hand and wrist are sore from cutting cardboard.
sucks to get old.. wish me luck lol

i hope i didnt mix shit up, as today, im not sure if it was the azurescens or the cyanescens, the one that is so tuff

if memory serves me right it was the cyanescens, the black tiny hawaiaiian extremly potent one, but also one of the harder to grow ones, they dont thrive well (if at all) , on brown rice substrate, they need like soil and poo as a substrate

and azurescens was (also above average potency) the tough, hardy one, the one that will grow anywhere, not giving a shit if you did sterilize or not - and is the "typical" outdoor variety

pardon me messing shit up, and confusing all, myself included


wishing you luck, but your strategy is the best approach, try it all out, and you will have a winning combo, i wouldnt be surprised if more than one method will give you fruits

regarding long term "storage" , honey is popular here, having all the anti microbial properties, honey will serve as a conservation substrate, giving you an ultimately infinite lifetime:
just mix in the powdered fruits, only downside is that you are stuck with sweet flavor, i mean like, some like to put their fruits on top a pizza

seeing already your fungi fields in front of my third eye, i might consider going a step further and extracting the active ingredients - tho i have not a single clue on how thats done, i could guess, but its better if you read on up about it

https://future4200.com/t/a-b-extraction ... ybin/84573
here give this a read

got out a stock pot today. boiled the un popped popcorn for 10 min.
then put the wet wood chips in and boiled them for 5 or so min.
is still cooling.
i got my cardboard, egg cartons and some shredded brown bag
ready. dono if i will cook that also. but will use the drain off
water from the corn/chips pan to wet it down. is a lot i hope it
fits in a 2 1/2 gal ziplock. the monster spore bag.
after i mix i might wait a day to make sure bag contents are
not overly wet or dry.

ive read one trick when dealing with these raw elements
is to do your work first think in the morning

when air currents are the least in your room

less chance of random infection...

so cooked corn and wood chips. then when cool added cooked cardboard and shredded brown bag.
then mixed in a 2 gal ziplock. here are the agar plates. and here is bag after i added agar. so now is a waiting game wish me luck.

Sweet

did some reading. 7-14 days i should see something.
then 30-45 days to be complete colonization.
could take longer as this info is for cubensis.
https://www.midwestgrowkits.com/PDF/Spa ... 018_Q2.pdf
then read when bag is done can store a few months.
https://www.midwestgrowkits.com/mushroo ... substrates
i wanted to add to pile in the fall. this should work out.

i just remembered has been 2 weeks.
so looked at the bag. there seems to be life.
is a white mold/spores growing. i hope it is
the right white growing. none on the paper
or chips yet. but on the corn and on the bag
is some white growing.. wish me luck

Good Luck Bro!

i really don't know. ok the white is gone from bottom of bag.
it has some white across the top now. but i think i see a little green.
so i opened bag for a photo. could not see it very well thru
bag with camera flash. anyway will look again next sunday.

Not looking good bro, looks like contamination. But no harm in letting it go to be sure…..
Fingers crossed!
That’s the weirdest pizza I have ever seen…….

ya i have a bad felling it's contaminated.
but i will wait and see.
i took photo so i could look longer and
zoom in. i see a few spots with green.
guess i am out a few ziplocks and a bag
of popcorn. so was a cheap lesson.

Bummer

Mycilium can overcome contaminates at some level, but I think it's a battle of which is the healthiest.

shit

if i could just get there
tomorow is usually better
if i could just get there...

ya i think it is fucked... but will let go another
week or two. then i will dump it in a corner of
the chip pile. least was a cheap lesson.

Lrus007 wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:11 pm

...then i will dump it in a corner of the chip pile...

I was thinking that initially too...but if the contaminates are winning, that's probably not a good idea.

good thinking bob you are right.
so thought a bit. i can make a mini pile
for it. if any mushrooms show up. i can
pick them and set on big pile.

In my experience once it is contaminated the mold will win every time. I have never once seen mycellium survive once contamination sets in. I am not saying it couldn’t happen but I have never seen it happen. Don’t put that contamination anywhere near any medium you want to use. Remember mold sends out spores and spreads via airborne means….

good point i will make the little pile far away.
thank you

well did a lot of reading a lot of thinking and reading more.
one of the problems is this kind likes low temps 40-50º to spawn.
so my 1st bag try is now in the fridge for a week or two, then will
look. but i think it is a no go. will give it it's own little chip pile
near back gate. well away from the big pile. reading about wood
liking mushrooms. then reading about spawn bags. then looking
at some for sale and what was in the bags. turns out they are
rye berries on the bottom of bag with hardwood sawdust on top.
read some more then googled what is a rye berry. after reading
and looking at photo's a rye berry is the rye seed. i thought damn
your kidding me. i have a 40 LB bag of winter rye seed i use for
cover crop. so i have rye berry seed and hard wood chips i can
make a real bag. i have every thing but the spores. friend that
gave me the agar plates said he thinks he can get me some
spore prints. so might be trying again if i get spores.

Spores are pretty cheap and legal so easy to get. There are tons of places online you can order from. I wouldn’t go with prints, syringes will give you a much larger colony and take a lot less time to colonize. I have spore prints here but they are getting old so wouldn’t want to send you something that may not work. I can order some and send to you if you want.

Here are just a few examples you can order from:

https://thesporedepot.com/index.php/pro ... ory/deals/

https://cylocybe.com/product/psilocybe- ... -syringes/

http://sporeworks.com/Psilocybe-cubensis-Spore-Syringes

Have you thought of switching to saw dust instead of chips?...would be a lot more surface area that way.

thank you for the offer oldjoints.
i am trying for cyanescens type.
yes bob i was thinking sawdust also.

Cyanescens isn’t hard to get.

https://www.cubensis-spores.com/product ... yanescens/

https://www.mushrooms.com/psilocybe-cya ... re-syringe

http://sporeworks.com/Psilocybe-cyanesc ... y-Kit.html

thank you old joints.

had trim jail a few hours today.
i am a thinker always thinking sucks in a way.
so before i trim i think of a topic to think about.

todays topic was easy. think about mushrooms.
lets see. oldjoints i will buy if i have to. but friend
has offered spore prints in a baggie. he said to just
put some distilled water in there. then can make my
own syringes with it. will see if he follows thru if not
i will buy. bob your right about sawdust. would take faster.
thinking about where to get some hardwood sawdust.
then it came to me. i bought a bag of hickory pellets.
thinking i would use them in my smoker. when i got home
i read the bag. is hickory and alder. i do not like alder smoke.
so the bag is still setting there. i have a pellet stove for heat.
if the pellets get wet they turn into * sawdust* and small wood
bits. so i have the rye berrys "seeds" and i have a bag of
hardwood pellets. got a vac sealer and the heavy bags.
i have several pressure cookers. think i can make my own
bag or bags. a gauze pad taped over a hole for the air.
then a dab of high temp silicone glue to inject thru.
update while typing this. i got a phone call my friend
said he is getting some spores sent to him in a week or so..
said 4-5 people responded so might be getting a few.
he is also sending me a needle and syringe i can pressure cook.
well somehow i will get this pile dosed up.

as a rule of thumb, its always better to work with stuff critical to keep sterile in the morning
less dust etc in the air after hours of nobody moving around

Was on the phone with Alabaster last night, he mentioned getting syringes with mycilium in them rather than spores...said it speeds up the inoculation process, only two weeks. Just something to consider.

ok so friend got me 2 spore prints local even.
he will send next week. i was going the make the bags
from scratch. but changed my mind. i ordered some bags
with the filter and injection port on them. so spent a few
hours reading today. i know how to make a syringe from a
spore print now. pretty simple. friend is sending 2 syringes
with the spores. i will need to make them sterile also.
going to have to get my large pressure cooker from bro.
for when i make the spawn in the bags. got rye, hardwood
sawdust, bags and spores. got bag sealer and pressure cooker.
i think i have everything i need.

i had put my spore bag into my carport for lower temps.
took a look at it today. looks like it has recovered. do not
see the green mold anymore. so this bag might work after all.
set it back down there and will look in another 2 weeks.

Alright...show's back on...

i got the bags today. now to find the time to
make some bags. got all the shit to do it right.
should work.. might look at bag 1 tomorrow.

...

ate some shroomy chocolate bar my son dropped by.
He said only eat half, so I ate the whole thing.
Prolly good advice on his part.
I should micro dose these things on the daily.
I can breathe better
I don't crave cigarettes +++
I can play and sing "idiot wind " through without fucking a verse up
Sitting here thinking and no negatives come to mind about throwing some cow shit under the trailer and see what pops.
still not takin that jab.

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Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:04 pm

He said only eat half, so I ate the whole thing.

I can so identify with that.

ok looked at the bag today.
looks like 2/3 white and 1/3 green *on the top. then i mixed up the bag a bit to spread the white around. i have been debating making a new bag.
then pluck a few chunks of the white and add to it.
might be faster than off a spore print. i dono still thinking.
it seems to like the wet shredded brown bags the best.
i might be fucked from mixing bag this week. i will see..

Sorry for the bad news. That's the thing about the shrooms, it seems. They're easy & fast but the slightest contamination early on results in do overs.

My friend's granddaughter grows them. Finally got a hookup.

Good luck going forward. Persistence prevails, as you know my friend.

As soon as I get a grip, I'm there with you. Peace!

it's progressing against the mold.
Wonder how the mixing will affect that.
Might be hard to get an uncontaminated chunk for a new bag.
Do you have any spore left?...or did you shoot the whole wad in that bag?

i have not messed with the spore prints yet.
this bag was from the agar plates i was sent.

Gotcha......for some reason I was thinking you syringed it.

back in colorado i almost bought a bag of plugs
you drill holes all over 6 month old logs and cap them with wax

you can just stack the logs but some bury them like 80%


they only sold gourmet varities...

well was a fail to mix the bag. i just mixed the bottom.
looked at bag today. more green than white.
be a while, but i got everything to do it right next time.
was kind of hoping there would have been a good patch
of white. i would have plucked some out and put in a new
bag. i should have done that 2 weeks ago before mixing.
oh well

With shrooms it's so inexpensive money wise, but time wise it's another story when it doesn't work out. Sorry Lrus. Keep trucking though

since the jars and bags you can buy are sterile almost always
its easy to get one up and running

perhaps let one of the larger sized bags colonize then dump that into your bigger batch?

been doing some deep reading and thinking.
first off my chip pile. i need to spread it out some
add some N put some soil and grass seed onto it.
i need a decomposing wood pile for the mushroom
mycelium to even take to it. that will take some time.
i have all the proper things now. spore prints, syringes
proper growing bags. the rye and sawdust/shavings.
and a pressure cooker. 2 hours in pressure cooker is
a long time. but i need to wait till i got wood pile ready.
my nephew picks mushrooms this time of year. said if
he see's any cyans. he will pick me some and do some
baggie spore prints. also bring me some of other kinds.

so guess i will bump this thread in the future.

as i recall
the plug starters for edibles wanted logs cut down 6 to 9 months ago

curious also the source of your sawdust and chips

mushroom varities are often specific to certain species of trees the down wood comes from...

the chips are alder

chips need to start decomposing before i can dose pile.
i spread them out some from pile. i need to get a bale
of peat moss. then will cover with the peat and plant some
winter rye onto pile. then when it starts decomposing. i got
bags, rye and hardwood and spore prints. so is on hold a while.

I just started learning about edible mushrooms, I have a walnut tree in my yard that I find both oyster and lions main on every year.

I feel an new adventure forthcoming...

Here is my oyster, I found it in its late stage and still don’t trust my ID enough to eat....any imposters wouldn’t be deadly but they could cause stomach pain.

from my read
a microscope set to read spore sizes is good for deciding whats good and whats not

beside physical attributes and spore color spore size is a a great indicator...

good luck
beside puffballs oysters are the next easiest to positively identify

so ive learned
and survived...

"Here is my oyster..."

Hmm...initially I thought you were mistaken, so I googled. Was surprise to see such a large variation in appearance. Interesting.

It has gills that go all the way down the stem and it was in the right kind of tree....The color is what throws me off but I’ve been told that is because of age.

wood type their growing on is a good indicator
i took a few classes, but shit

trusting what you read in some book?
tough to do...

watching how easily the folk in the mushroom club would chow down helped but still

besides puffballs i think id have morels nailed
the pattern of their exterior growth presentation is easy to read
then you cut them in half and see if their hollow top to bottom or not
nails them

good luck

buy a microscope and the card makes it easy to measure spore dimension

Lions Mane is an easy one with no imposters.....I’ll get a picture of one within a year.

I've got a buddy who is a bit of an amateur mycologist.

Fungi is what he's doing for a living as his hobby is a bit of a Mr. Myagi aborist taking care of trees for nurseries.
That shit will fuck up a tree farm quickly and needs to be eradicated or remediated promptly so he's always busting his ass doin something with the fungus among us.

The things that guy can grow in a bag on a coconut shell block is nothing short of amazing.

Tells me all you need really is a decent tree an activated plug with which you can grow your Shittake anywhere. I don't know but I think Portabellas would be similar now? Something I'll have to learn more about.

He's now trying to do it with hardwood pellets instead of using a tree, we'll see how it turns out. Kinda weird what the local Japanese restaurant offered to pay him to provide exotics for their menu, but you need a food grade factory and it's a pain in the ass with government regulations being what they are, and you know you will pay for everything from licenses to inspections and sanitary expenses as a small business.

when i make my bags. will be rye and wet hardwood pellets.
tho on my 1st bag that failed. it took to the shredded paper
the most. so i might add a layer of that to the bags.
might get some peat moss tomorrow to cover chips.
then plant some winter rye on top. to get the pile rotting.

i have dosed the chip pile 2 times with N and let it rain in.
here is chip pile then i have covered it well with peat moss. then i spread winter rye onto pile. then i covered seed and tossed on some pellet ferts. then i capped the whole thing off. is good to go when it rains the rye will sprout.
this should start the pile decomposing.
when rye pops up will take another photo.

ok a crazy maybe stupid idea.
friend sent me 3 nice spore prints. can give me more if i want.
i have ordered a large 150ml syringe. i will mix the spores in
the syringe with distilled water. wait a day for spores to hydrate.
then i am going to inject a bunch of spots at bottom of the chip
pile. then wait and see. might take a year or 2 but should take
to the pile. it should be here in a week or so. let mother nature
do the work. enough spots dosed something should take.

going for it. is up to mother nature.
i used rainwater and washed 3 spore prints into a baggie.
then sucked the water up from it and rinsed bag a few times.
so i have a 150 ml syringe of water and spores. i will wait a few
days for them to hydrate. then going to dose bottom of chip
pile here there and everywhere. i am going to cook up some
rye seed so it will not sprout. i will put that in 1 spot at bottom of
the pile just for the hell of it. then it is up to mother nature.

soaked 5 cups of winter rye overnight to expand.
then today heated pan till it boiled a few minutes.
that way the rye will not sprout. is still warm if it
does not cool enough. will do the dosing tomorrow.
i figure i will do 4-6 spots with rye at edges of chip pile.
then dose pile all over the bottom.

course pouring rain. but did take a few photo's.
took bulb planter and made 6 holes. then i filled
them with the rye. then i dosed each with spores from syringe.
i also did 6 spots at base of chip pile after holes.
then i filled holes back in. then topped with some soil. well it is up to mother nature now.

well noticed pile is getting smaller. good sign is decomposing.
today i put soil onto edge and up a ways. then i planted some
fiscue grass seed. only a mater of time.

It sounds like you're really excited about your mushroom patches! I hope they turn out well for you. It's always fun to experiment with new things and see what grows.