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"Something is fishy": Prigozhin is alive conspiracy erupts as body double claim runs amok in wake of viral video
Story by Shalini Mahato •

9/1/23
Yevgeny Viktorovich Prigozhin might be alive, according to recent rumors going around the internet. The conspiracy first began when a video of the chief of Wagner private military company emerged on August 30, 2023, through a telegram channel previously linked with Yevgeny's group.

As per the New York Post, Prigozhin appears to be in a car in Africa, talking about him still being alive and well in the "second half of August." The clip was presumably recorded before the August 25, 2023, plane crash that took his life.
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It is to be noted that the metadata of the video has been deleted as per Nexta TV. Netizens online are confused by the timing of the footage and doubting whether Yevgeny really died in Tver, Russia, last Friday.


New video raises doubts over the death of Yevgeny Prigozhin
On August 25, an aircraft crashed in the Tver Region, north of Moscow, Russia. As per BBC, 10 people were on board: seven passengers and three crew members. All of them died when the plane hit the ground, and their bodies were recovered by Russian officials.

Prigozhin, the leader of the military group Wagner, and his right-hand man Dmitry Utkin were also on the plane. Rumors erupted of the crash being orchestrated by Vladimir Putin. The Wagner chief and Putin were on bad terms over a staged coup against the Russian Army on June 23, 2023, led by Yevgeny, as per The Guardian. He was exiled for life, and now the news of his untimely death has raised a lot of conspiracies.

Adding fuel to the fire, another rumor was birthed as footage of the deceased Russian leader Prigozhin leaked on the internet. In the video, he said:
"For those who are discussing whether I'm alive or not, how I'm doing - right now it's the weekend, second half of August 2023, I'm in Africa."
He also added:

"So for fans who are discussing my liquidation or my private life, how much I earn or whatever else, I'm fine."
Related video: Yevgeny Prigozhin: New video may reveal last-known location of deceased Putin critic, and it's not Belarus (Dailymotion)
His admission of well-being and his urging followers not to worry has raised a lot of doubts in people's minds. Some believe a body double took his place in the crash, and Yevgeny is still alive in an unknown location. As per the NY Post, the clip was uploaded by the Wagner-linked Grey Zone Telegram channel on August 30, 2023.

Internet's reaction to rumors of Yevgeny's body double and other conspiracies
Some netizens are still skeptical over whether Prigozhin actually died in the plane crash, as a new video of him insisting he's alive has emerged.

Here are some of the reactions:

Dr. Valery Solovey says Yevgeny is still alive
Russian political analyst Dr. Valery Solovey believes the Wagner leader did not die and is currently plotting his revenge against President Putin for sanctioning the assassination attempt on him, as per The Independent.
Solovey stated: wrote:
"First, the plane in which Yevgeny Prigozhin was supposed to fly was downed by a Russian air defence system. There was no explosion on board. It was downed from the outside."
He then said the secret mission originated in Russia's security council and was perpetrated by Vladimir Putin.

Valery, who was formerly a professor at Moscow's Institute of International Relations, continued:
"Prigozhin himself was not on board. His double was flying instead of him. By the way, Vladimir Putin is perfectly aware of that."
The analyst concluded by saying the chief is "alive, well, and free" and intends to take revenge on people who wanted to "destroy" him and his loved ones.

There is no evidence presented for Solovey's claims yet.

Yevgeny Viktorovich Prigozhin was buried in St. Petersburg, Russia, on August 29, 2023, after a quiet funeral with just his close family and friends. Vladimir Putin reportedly did not attend.
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Could be a load of Bull, I dunno.

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Haha! Let's hope he's alive and kills Putin! :nutkick:
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Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:49 am
Interesting tidbit about the Wagner founder being not Prigozhin.EDIT[Utkin and Prigozhin founded Wagner together?] I thought him funding the whole operation made it his batch of batter.
Maybe he just picked it up as an acquisition so he could play soldier.
Another very intriguing U oligarch is Ihor Kolomoyskyi. He has his hands in alot of operations through his Privat Bank. This is the bank that Burisma put all the USAID money that vanished early on. He reportedly owns about half of Burisma, and is pro west as his ties to the energy sector make him early in line to benefit from collateral extraction of resources. His main businesses are banking, resource extraction and trading and mass media operations.

He was also highly corrupt and seemed to rob his own companies into bankruptcy.
He obtained(bought) permission to open Privat bank outside of Ukraine and opened in Latvia.
This was a mistake, because the Latvian government charged him with the financial crimes he was using the bank to acheive.
He moved it to Cyprus where apparently there is far less scrutiny.
He was Z's biggest campaign financer and benefits tremendously from aligning with the West.
Glen Beck dug pretty deep on Ukraine back in the day, and claimed that Kolo was a main player in the nationalist side of the internal Ukraine conflict and funneled money from US to the militias who fought against the new Russian friendly provinces in the east.
Fucking speak of the Devil!!
https://www.newsweek.com/who-ihor-kolom ... wn-1824201
I don't know what to think of this. I suspect that corruption in Ukr is unquelled, and this is a ploy to gain the west's confidence.
I'll have to dig in and find the charges to know for certain. This mf knows where ALL the bodies are buried.

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The difference is at least Ukraine is doing something about its corruption. In Russia's case, Putin is King Kleptocrat, so corruption simply filters down through his oligarchy mates.
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When I say he knows where all the bodies are buried, I mean he is behind the curtain pulling most of the strings in Ukraine.

I hear this guy is in jail
The video is a year old, but gives some intel on Kolomoisky.
This arrest was reportedly done in response to pressure from House Republicans, so don't insinuate that Ukraine is addressing it's corruption out of valor, while your over there shaking your blue and gold pom poms. This story isn't about Russian corruption, so injecting it into the discussion is solely to bolster your reliance on Ukr being an innocent victim of bad mr. Putin. We know, we know, "fuck Putin".
https://www.bpb.de/themen/europa/ukrain ... ra-papers/
On October 2, 2021, the International Network of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ) informed the world public about the existence of the so-called Pandora Papers, a data leak of 12 million documents from 14 sources. These also contain data on previously unknown offshore transactions of the "Kvartal-95" network around Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and his connections to the oligarch Ihor Kolomoiskij and the "PrivatBank" he operated until 2016 and then nationalized.

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Prawn Connery wrote:
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The difference is at least Ukraine is doing something about its corruption.

:)
thats what full speed ahead has aways been called you know...
the intolerance of the old order is emerging from the rosy mist in which it has hitherto been obscured.

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the way russia has amp'd into disinformation designed to cause caos

its become an unknowable fact

as unknowable
as all those post stalin kremlin leaders

trying to chase down what has become of their friends and relative in the purge

the details are gone.
the fact removed from evaluation

unknowable

when the orders are to burn the orders
the dice get fuzzy...
the intolerance of the old order is emerging from the rosy mist in which it has hitherto been obscured.

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Wagner Warlord Prigozhin Is ‘Alive and Hiding Out’ on Margarita Island in Venezuela, Claims Russian Analyst
The Yevgeny Prigozhin mystery appears to still be far from over.

A Russian professor claims the Wagner Group leader is alive, in good health and living in the Caribbean, Knewz.com has learned.

Professor Valery Solovey has suggested that Prigozhin escaped from a fiery and deadly plane crash north of Moscow and now is living undercover.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/wa ... b038d&ei=8

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https://english.alarabiya.net/News/worl ... rash-Putin

Would it be possible to test the bodies for drugs or alcohol now if they weren't cremated yet?
Putin says plane of Wagner boss Prigozhin was blown up using hand grenades on board

By AFP Published: 05 October ,2023: 09:00 PM GST Updated: 05 October ,2023: 10:01 PM GST|Oct. 5th, 2023


Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday suggested that the plane crash which killed Wagner mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin in August was caused by hand grenades detonating inside the aircraft, not by a missile attack.

The private Embraer jet on which Prigozhin was travelling to St Petersburg crashed north of Moscow killing all 10 people on board on Aug. 23, including two other top Wagner figures, Prigozhin’s four bodyguards and a crew of three.

Putin suggested the plane was blown up from inside, saying that the head of Russia’s investigative committee had reported to him a few days ago.

“Fragments of hand grenades were found in the bodies of those killed in the crash,” Putin told a meeting of the Valdai Discussion Club in the Black Sea resort of Sochi.

“There was no external impact on the plane - this is already an established fact,” Putin said, seemingly rubbishing assertions by unidentified US officials who said shortly after the crash that they believed it had been shot down.

Putin did not give any more details about how a grenade or grenades could have been detonated on board, but said he thought investigators were wrong to have not carried out alcohol and drug tests on the bodies of those who died in the crash given that quantities of cocaine had been found at Wagner’s office in St Petersburg in the past.

The investigators of the crash have yet to report publicly on the cause.

Prigozhin’s mutiny posed the biggest challenge to Putin’s rule since the former KGB spy came to power in 1999. Western diplomats say it exposed the strains on Russia of the war in Ukraine.
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hard to believe hand grenades could have blown a whole wing off as the video of its decent and crash illistrate was the case...

mabe a whole box of them placed strategically...
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