MSNBC Monstrosity

[roller24]

https://twitter.com/theblaze/status/1761064481763864584

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

OK, this bitch just tried to demonize Trump supporters, by insinuating that by upholding the founding principle of freedom and American law, they are somehow a threat to democracy.
This should offend anyone who still adheres to the principles of individual liberty.

I'm voting for JFK Jr., and I'm repelled by organized religion, but this way of thinking is far more extreme than nationalism, politically speaking.
I suspect some of you agree with the notion that there is no deity, but that in no way diminishes the laws of nature. If these unassailable rights were not endowed by nature than what rights does a man have among other men?

[ben ttech]

rfk's viciouus anti semitism vis being a straightjacket zionist is abhorent.
that hes bankrolled by trumps pac's is all you need to know about what his only aim is.

[Intrinsic]

They're repelled by the lack of separation of church and state from maga. But you go on with your strawman it is about a deity existence and derivation of rights.

Think Maga Mike about to lose his job for preaching on the job.

[Butcher Bob]

That woman is out of her fukking mind to try to make that distinction.
Was raised 18 years in a Christian church...know countless others from every Christian denomination...they ALL believe in God given rights.
Intrinsic is spot on with this one...
"They're repelled by the lack of separation of church and state from maga."
...same thing as when the repugs latched on to the anti-abortion religious vote in the 70s.

[roller24]

I always thought pro-life supporters were democrats.
Yall are some ace reporters with the news that republicans need to create a theocracy to obtain that block of voters.
There is no strawman needed to be dismayed by the remarkable stupidity of this woman.

[ripper5]

https://twitter.com/theblaze/status/1761064481763864584

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

OK, this bitch just tried to demonize Trump supporters, by insinuating that by upholding the founding principle of freedom and American law, they are somehow a threat to democracy.
This should offend anyone who still adheres to the principles of individual liberty.

I'm voting for JFK Jr., and I'm repelled by organized religion, but this way of thinking is far more extreme than nationalism, politically speaking.
I suspect some of you agree with the notion that there is no deity, but that in no way diminishes the laws of nature. If these unassailable rights were not endowed by nature than what rights does a man have among other men?

Nope, she's spot on.
What's with the highlights? Are you trying for equivalency between "nature's laws" or a "God of nature," and the God of the bible? The founders went out of their way not to include references to judeo/Christian figures & theology. Christian Nationalists (maga) have always had trouble understanding this.

[roller24]

The founders chose those monikers due to their Masonic teachings. They along with many Quakers and Puritans came to America due to persecution for their beliefs. It was these early settlers that encompassed the freedoms within the statement of endowment.
Even in the early time, the states held a large variety of Jewish, Protestant, Catholic, Episcopalians etc.
Jabulon is the name given to god within the lodges, there are variations on how they came to this name, but many claim it is the combination of Yahweh, Baal, and On (Osiris). There is no restriction on denominations within the lodge, but one must pronounce a belief in a spiritual creator.
This is why no denomination(s) were enumerated in the founding documents.

If you search the Federalist Papers you won't find any article dealing directly with religion, but some commentary can be found intertwined with other subjects.
The main takeaways were:
Everyone should therefore be free to worship as he or she saw fit, without being coerced to believe (or pretend to believe) in the doctrines of an official faith. On this much, all were agreed.
There should be no religious test to hold office.

The bill of rights came later with it's clause:
Congress shall make no law establishing religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, nor shall the rights of Conscience be infringed.
This is your separation clause.

The states however in making their own constitutions varied widely on the religious test to hold office. Some limited to Christians, some to Protestants.
This is the root of your abortion debate. That the states, which were wholly Sovereign at the time, would govern their state governments in a manner that they felt best served the people of each state.

Now, since Abortion is an act that in many religions is an abomination, the act cannot be unhinged from those faiths.
Therefore, it is against the First Amendment and the intention of the Constitution to enact any law entailing the procedure of abortion.
No laws allowing it, No laws prohibiting it.

That's why the Roe vs Wade was overturned and the authority to legislate abortion was returned to the states.

It's just a political football federally, for those who think the federal government was established to rule over the citizens, which it was not.

[ben ttech]

basic human rights for women DEMANDS free access to healthcare WHICH abortion is.

dozens of women with prenancys threatening their lives have been denied abortions in these states by doctors afraid of prosecution. theyve been sent home to wait until their DYING before the doctor will abort the dead fetus

no state has the right to deny its women and girls their rights based on religious scripture.

none.

[roller24]

Abortion debate is and endless circle with no right or definitive answer.
You're arguing that taking a life to save a life is a woman's right.
In the eyes of the woman, absolutely. The child cannot speak for itself, so the debate is mute.
You can try to make it black and white, but the grey area is just as prevalent.
It's not healthcare when a life is intentionally terminated.

[ripper5]

^^ No it's not. It's a made-up political gripe. No where in the judeo Christian Bible does it condemn abortion.