Page 1 of 1

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:33 pm
by bentech
not the process, i got that down.
im talking the trim handling,


last i remember, folks were freezing their trim till time to process.
seems like it would degrade the water soluable canniboids and introduce alot of plant liquids into the final product you wouldnt ever get running fresh trip


whats the word these days,
how do you prefer doing it?

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:17 pm
by Butcher Bob
Fully dry yer trim b'fore freezin. :winky:

...the rest is in the whippin (stirrin). :)

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:43 pm
by Mothers Penis
I rather freeze my trim when it's fresh , when they are dry they easily crumble to dust that will pass through the 1st screen , making your hash green because of the leaf mater .

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:16 am
by bentech
thanks guys,
i remember the quandary

i remember reading folks would run their trim twice. first time with very gentile aggitation in the ice water for only 5 minutes or so. the next run was with the mixer.

we shall see

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:56 am
by Butcher Bob
Mothers Penis wrote:I rather freeze my trim when it's fresh , when they are dry they easily crumble to dust that will pass through the 1st screen , making your hash green because of the leaf mater .
Fresh allows fer easier pulverization of the plant material.


Bone dry.....ain't no green in there.... :dunno: ....

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:38 pm
by bentech
i dug out my bucket set,
ive got 10 grades of screen for it now,
heh

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:36 am
by Mothers Penis
Very nice hash Bob ! ... and like you said it's "in the whippin (stirrin)" ... I'm guessing you slowly stir with a wooden spoon since it's dry .... I mix my fresh material with a paint mixer hooked onto a power-drill .

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:49 am
by bentech
do you actually use ice?
when i saw how incorperated plant material became with the ice i couldnt bring myself to do the first screen till it had all melted

thats a significant period of time ive yet to mentioned by anyone else in this process

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:23 pm
by Butcher Bob
Mothers Penis wrote:Very nice hash Bob ! ... and like you said it's "in the whippin (stirrin)" ... I'm guessing you slowly stir with a wooden spoon since it's dry .... I mix my fresh material with a paint mixer hooked onto a power-drill .
bentech wrote:do you actually use ice?
when i saw how incorperated plant material became with the ice i couldnt bring myself to do the first screen till it had all melted

thats a significant period of time ive yet to mentioned by anyone else in this process
Temp, time, & technique are critical.

Freeze yer material. Deep freeze yer ice & material if possible. Use water as cold as you kin git it. It is the cold temps that make the trichs brittle...and keeps the plant material from soakin up moisture (which allows the plant material to pulverize easier). Smaller ice is better than large ice. I've wondered how well a slurpy machine, usin all that chipped ice, would work.

Do it quick. The longer ya take...the more the temp rises, the more the material soaks up moisture, the more shit will fall apart. I go 10 minutes...maybe 15 tops.

Whip it, whip it good...gotta git that froth. I tried a paint mixer at Hashcravers pad...worked ok, but doesn't quite git the right synergy goin on. Now I use a 5gal paint paddle to stir with, using that same liftin & turnin motion ya use to stir paint with, bringin the bottom stuff up & pushin the top stuff down...only faster. Gits the whole buckit of ice rollin like a grinder, not jus where the stirrin implement is. You want that ice grindin up against each other, not bangin into each other. The bangin jus pulverizes shit. When ya git it right, ya git a nice tan froth on top.


We do jus the trash bag (largest screen size) in a bucket first. Keep pullin it up so that the ice stays even from the top of the water to the bottom of the bag. Lotsa ice still left when done stirrin...the whole lot gitz tossed on the compost when done, ice & all. All that's left is sediment in the buckit, which then gitz filtered through the next size down bag in another buckit...use cold water spray to rinse particles down to the screen. Hash is scraped from the screen, and the new sediment is run through the next screen & buckit, and so forth, until the final sediment is dumped with the water on the compost. The coffee filter screen ain't worth savin, so I don't bother runnin that low...I stop at the size right b'fore that.


Or, if ya got a lot to do, you kin always go Hashcraver's route & git a dedicated washin machine, & run the discharge into yer bubble bags. :mrgreen:

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:59 pm
by bentech
your attention please...
we have fingerhash

more to follow

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:10 pm
by bentech
had some strange issues in the filter process,

mixed the tiny fans and all the bud trimmings for 10 minutes with the electric mixer. let it stand 5 minutes, gave the ice and green mass on top of the water a few stirs with a spoon then lifted the mass out and put it in a clean bucket [ it was in a 5 gallon paint strainer bag for the mixing, i use a second bucket with the bottom cut out slid down into the strainer bag to keep it from getting sucked into the mixer]

first screen is 220, lots of green. micro shows a bare few trics
second screen, 160, green again, a few more trics
third screen, 120, nice lump of hash here, almost entirely trics
fourth screen, 75u, nothing
fifth screen, 68u, nother lump of hash, more than the 120

sixth screen, 45, and now the problem starts
the water wont drain through it.
never had this trouble with the size of screen i was using, real odd

so i backed up and reran the 68, and got hash from it, bout a third as much as the previous time
wtf?!?

ok, so back to 45, and it still wont run,
so i pour off the top 4/5ths of the water into another bucket, and just try to run the bottom dregs through the 45; this work. runs slow, but theres hash, bout half as much as the first 68 run

under the micro you can see it has more plant material in it. the trics are getting small and some of them look green

ok, so now i start pour that 4/5ths in and it wont run, but i get out the industrial vibrator and get it to run.

no hash, just a scummy green slime.
something in suspension in the water was clogging the works. threw that shit out.

ok, last filter, 25u

it want to clog up as well, but the vibrator gets it to drain throught and theres a small lump of hash left

again, more green, tinyer trics, lots of little green tricks as well.



ok.
so i still got that bag of plant and ice set aside. i add to it all the decent fan leaves id reserved and mix it up for 10 more minutes.

then back throught all those screens.

i get about 2/3rds are much material from each screen as i got the first go around.

no problem with the water pouring throught my screens until i get to the 25u. even then it wasnt nearly as much trouble as the first time through and simple drumming on the screen holder got the water to run.

its now set out to dry
will see what the colors look like then

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:13 pm
by bentech
oh, and a rough guess would be that i got about 1 1/2 cubic inches of hash from the 120 68 45 and 25 if combined

that from 5 plants under a 400w which had poor bud growth even after extending flowering 2 weeks past what these clones were said to need. and the increased growth in those last two weeks was noticeable.

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:12 am
by bentech
so a week later i get a look,

the kif off the 68 is dark as boot polish,
and its pliable without any manipulation other than drying it out

crazy
the plants went 3 weeks over and got chopped at the barest hint of brown trics

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:32 am
by Dunza Ranks
Mothers Penis wrote:I rather freeze my trim when it's fresh , when they are dry they easily crumble to dust that will pass through the 1st screen , making your hash green because of the leaf mater .
i've tried both, and fresh frozen trim is far superior in quality imo, also ive noticed bigger yeilds, 6 plants of dry trim - 17.3g of hash, the same amount of fresh frozen trim - 29g of hash

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:25 am
by bentech
made.dryice.hash.last.night

that.video.does.a.good.job.of.not.showing.what.a.ordeal.that.process.is
messy.as.fuck
exhausting.to.keep.shaking.that.thing
next.time.ima.hire.a.stripper

and.this.is.weird
got.an.alergic.reaction.to.it
my.arms.broke.out.in.a.rash.and.welts.that.iched.like.poison.oak
lasted.a.couple.hours
spread.to.my.neck.where.id.scratched.an.inch


however
got.a.plate.full.of.full.melt.out.of.it

the.final.product.is.so.fluffy.it.seems.puffed
so.the.volume.i.see.now.is.deceptive

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:22 pm
by bentech
ok.its.not.really.full.melt
but.it.sure.fires.up.easily

and.it.left.my.screen.gooped.all.to.fuck

youll.kick.yourself.if.you.do.this.with.a.bag.you.like

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:32 pm
by Intrinsic
I was thinking of somehow attaching it to this homemade table sander that vibrates so much it always walking across the shop. Ought be suptnโ€™ around like that around.

A rash, thatโ€™s interesting,. Maybe allergic to work? last only a while tho, odd?? sounds like a soapy shower afterwards is in order.


Ummm whats up with the dot fever? Spacebar broken?

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:58 pm
by bentech
spacebar. broken
coffee.cup.malfunction
at.least.the.trackpad.came.back

oh wait!
thats at the other location
heh

ya, im thinking of all manner of ways to make that work easier
but i noticed in the process that you got the best results by shaking the mass as high as possible, compared to the easier shakes

did 5 runs and used 3 different screens
150,170,76
roughly 4 oz of trim per run
ya, had a ton of whimpy undergrowth

used the 76 for the last two after it worked so much better
was amazed how white this stuff turned out given any of those screens should have been passing alot of plant material as well

course i was using fresh trim,
stuff was on the plants and growing 12 hours earlier

after drying overnight had 9/10ths of an ounce of the stuff
that from the trim and water leaf off 4 plants under 2 400w bulbs

as for the idea this was allergic to work,
i did this after 9 hours of trimming SO id figure were that the case
the affliction would have kicked in much earlier

seriously, it was a rash with welts

the stuff quickly caked my hands and ended up everywhere
the welts were worst where id rested my arms against the edge of the table

i would swear id never try this again,
but the water hash run previous was an ordeal
and the product from this method smokes so much easier

im seriously tempted to not even press it

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:36 pm
by bentech
those are 1 60,120,68 and 45

after nothing ran through the 25 filter, i skimmed off the top 90% of the water and went back through the 4 smallest filters i had,

on that run the 68 produced about 3 times as much as the first run through
the 25 ran but there was nothing in it

after drying
pressed each in a clay extruder

the second run 68 is as soft as gummy every was
the 45 is pliable
the rest are rocks


thats a mini lighter btw

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:59 am
by BAMF
:smoke:

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:16 pm
by bentech
this was interesting

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:04 pm
by Dick Fein
This is one of my favorite parts.

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 1:15 am
by Lrus007
well made bubble today. forgot what a bitch it is lol.
12.JPG
16.JPG
will be last time i make any. is kind of a 2 person job.
but i told someone i would make some for them to try.
:whistle:

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 2:06 pm
by arb
I can't do water hash anymore either........ way too much hassle.
Bounce for dry sift and press into rosin is pretty awesome though.

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:20 pm
by Lrus007
i made a dry sift machine. it works well.
only reason i made bubble was for a friend.

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:36 pm
by arb
Lrus007 wrote: โ†‘
Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:20 pm
i made a dry sift machine. it works well.
only reason i made bubble was for a friend.
Got any pics?
I just use 24" wood framed screens and a rotary tattoo machine for bounce.
๐Ÿ˜‚

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:50 pm
by Lrus007
well keeping my machine under wraps.
might make and sell 1 day. do not want to
give my idea away. but here is a photo of
dry sift from it.
DSCN3019.JPG
:whistle:

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:02 pm
by rSin
always was gonna get around to building one
lots of low rpm motors at my electronics shop...

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:12 pm
by Lrus007
arb wrote: โ†‘
Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:36 pm
Lrus007 wrote: โ†‘
Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:20 pm
i made a dry sift machine. it works well.
only reason i made bubble was for a friend.
Got any pics?
I just use 24" wood framed screens and a rotary tattoo machine for bounce.
๐Ÿ˜‚
i used a flat screen and vibration since the 80's
i do like the flavor of dry sift over bubble.
you seem like you got the rosin down well.
i have some plates and friend wired the pid's.
i just need to drill some holes, tap a few holes.
then put together the press that is boxes on my
front porch a few years now lol. to many projects..

water hash cliff notes,

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:26 pm
by Lrus007
oh here is my thread where i snagged the dry sift photo from.
viewtopic.php?t=6041
:whistle: shameless plug lol...